thanks to president obama who cast it as a pure moral decision. if you are a big got you are against gay people you are against this. if you are for gay tepeople you are for it. who cares. weigh ought to have room in the society for groups like boy scouts to have an opinion they want on gays. >> tucker, in addition to which you have people inside who are pressuring saying they want opportunity to be in the scouts. >> $16 trillion in debt. the president is wasting time -- >> what's wrong with the president speak to go this critical issue. >> let the scouts work it out internally. it's beyond the moral issue. if you make it into a civil rights issue then you are inviting the law and coercion. that's a big problem. let the sil socieews -- civil society work it out on their own. they will. they always have. >> the president talks guns in one of the nation's big hunting state. we will be right back. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? e carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition